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blast off on another vip episode of hero

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paranormal podcast my name is ryan the

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original outlaw of the airwaves bringing

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you a crazy episode today

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broadcasting from the base of la madre

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mountain just south of area 51. i'm

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bringing it hard let's say

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that you or someone you knew

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had

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made a device that created free energy

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what's the likelihood that device would

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ever really make it to the people to the

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masses very unlikely just put yourself

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in the position of a head of state or

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someone in charge of an empire or a lot

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of empires

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and think of what you would do to keep

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this out of the reach of the public i'd

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keep it at the bottom of the ocean so

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keep this in mind as we discuss a very

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interwoven strange web of

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interestingness i'll just call it

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interestingness

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on today's episode we tackle the muddy

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waters of the history between

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well an anti-gravity device

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an alleged secret scientific lab called

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the lake

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popularized by many

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including grant cameron

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and the early associations of dr hal

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puthoff dr kit green

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joe fermig

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and others

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mr joe firmage for those who are not

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familiar with him has been called the

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fox molder of silicon valley

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he resigned from his highly lucrative

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career so he could promote his belief

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that many of today's high-tech

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advancements

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came from aliens

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the list of examples consist of

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semiconductors

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fiber optics

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and even lasers

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mr firmage has said he was willing to

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risk his high profile career

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to study and report the fact that he

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believes many high-tech advancements

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can be traced to an alien craft

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crashing in roswell new mexico in 1947.

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firmage has stated he is under the

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impression

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the us military industrial complex

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is covering up the truth

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as if this isn't enough information for

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an entire podcast in and of itself this

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is merely the tip of the iceberg

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there has been rumors of a fully

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functioning secret laboratory known as

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the lake

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located in salt lake city utah

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where secret things happen

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one of the more notable tests involved

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what is known as the bouncing box

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this anti-gravitic device

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has been accredited with portal

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technology-like attributes

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some have speculated it is the same

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device dr stephen greer mentions

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that he has seen which will provide free

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as if this

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possible news isn't enough to fill in

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many pieces of the puzzle known as the

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anti-gravity technology mystery

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mr firmage resigned his previous ceo

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position of a three billion dollar

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company which was responsible for much

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of the development of the internet as we

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due to a contact experience was the main

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reason he noted

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this contact experience he had

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with an intelligent non-human and

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is something that really changed his

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back to the amazing bouncing box for a

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the bouncing box

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whose videos can be found on the

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internet with a simple search of joe

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is claimed to be an anti-gravity

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propulsion device

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among other things

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that it is a source of zero point energy

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meaning it would need to be

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drawn from the quantum vacuum energy

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it has been stated that the bouncing box

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technology can lift and propel a weight

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there have been claims it is

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and uses only the amount of energy it

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i don't know about that

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some interesting background

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is that joe firmage is a descendant of

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brigham young

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joe had always been fascinated with

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astronomy

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as a teenager ufo stories intrigued him

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one day he found something very

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remarkable

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it was a research paper by a man named

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bernard

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who worked just up the road from firmage

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bernard was also the editor of the

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journal of scientific exploration

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bernard's paper

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that was read by mr fermich discussed

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the zero point field

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which is a theoretical field of energy

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that there are faster than light travel

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so what does that have to do with

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oh let's say tom delong in ttsa

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well many of the same people have been

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involved in the periphery of all of this

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involved in major ways and although mr

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firmage has kept

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he founded an organization by the name

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of the international academy of science

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which is eerily similar in scope

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the to the stars academy of arts and

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divisions would have never come about

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joe claims his purpose is to raise the

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consciousness of people all over the

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joe also claims he has met with the most

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senior military and scientific experts

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which also sounds eerily similar to the

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for internasa shared a very closely

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this may hold no weight at all this

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coincidence led many to believe

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that the two were somehow connected

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whether this is true or not remains a

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mystery and remains to be seen

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what it is that ties well

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the old sherman ranch to all of this

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there are a few ties

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lou elizondo is involved with

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i think there's a lot of proof there but

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let's keep opinions out of this

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you don't want my opinion

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robert bigelow owned the utah ufo ranch

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a connection

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through senator harry reid

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to the ranch itself

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to see if there was anything to the wild

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he described seeing something

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most similar to the cover art of mike

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what lukatsky told him

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goes as such

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the tubular object was described as

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called tubular bells

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that's what's on the cover apparently

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to as what the structure of this thing

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the atip most people know about

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navy and the air force amongst others

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back to james lickatsky's experience in

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james was in the double-wide trailer

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formerly used by nids

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sitting in this double wide

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he noticed an object in the air

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it apparently changed shape

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it was described as three-dimensional

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after it changed shape it disappeared

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and that it may have had hieroglyphics

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the ranch at the time

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was more on the back burner and not

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here is an excerpt from george knapp's

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it was something that appeared in the

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10 feet away from him inside a house

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while he was having a conversation

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and it was at such an angle

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that it was only viewable

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of the group that was sitting there

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within his line of sight

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the thing appeared to him

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and he was trying to play it cool and

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not let everybody else know

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it was there

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this guy he's a very serious rock solid

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brilliant guy

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who had read the book

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and thought there might be something

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there of interest to the dia and the

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he's in the main ranch house hearing

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some stories from the caretakers who

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live there

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and this thing appeared inside the house

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in broad daylight

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and i'm not going to get into details

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and it made a very big impression on

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this guy

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whatever is there

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an engraved invitation to come back and

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the pretzel-like mobius strip witnessed

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by dia agent james lickatsky

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is eerily similar in retrospect to the

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symbol used by internasa as their logo

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back to joe firmage's original contact

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with a non-human intelligence

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a remarkable being

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clothed in brilliant white light

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appeared hovering over my bed in my room

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out of him emerged

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an electric blue sphere

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just smaller than a basketball which was

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swirling

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it left his body

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floated down

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okay

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in the book by george knapp and colin

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keller

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hunt for the skinwalker

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science confronts the unexplained at a

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remote ranch in utah

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a portion of the book describes owner

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having experiences with blue orbs of

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roughly the same size

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they are again mentioned as being blue

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in color

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and intelligently controlled

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the only notable difference i could find

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in the descriptions

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is that terry sherman the previous

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rancher and owner of the property

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described them as possibly having again

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a swirling

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liquid within them whereas joe firmage

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described his as having

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a swirling electric ark within them

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it is very likely that they may have

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been witnessing

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something similar or

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the same thing of the same size and

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color

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very intriguing

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at an earlier portion of the book hunt

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for the skinwalker

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terry sherman explains

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at a time

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when he trusted

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his ranch dogs to go after

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the blue orb

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as his ranch dogs went after this blue

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orb

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they were later found vaporized and only

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grease spots remained

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could these be the same type of blue orb

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the size and shape seem eerily identical

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but there are many coincidences in this

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puzzle

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back to the ttsa and inner nasa

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similarities

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ttsa focuses on three similar arenas

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as inner nasa and firmage's other

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companies

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they focus on the collection

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and study of anomalous data

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developing technology related to the

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findings and explaining to humanity

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interestingly

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enough with the joe firmage connections

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let's go into

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well different connections

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joe firmage's connections to the mormon

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church and others

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who funded much of his research names

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like daniel marriott come up against

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many

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some of you already know very powerful

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mormons

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are good to have in this space

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a strangely interesting related

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organization to the mormon church pops

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up on the radar

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however it echoes

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similar

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things that have been said

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by people like joe formage and others on

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radio interviews etc

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the organization is the mormon

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transhumanist association

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and it has some interestingly

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provocative ideas

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now i i guess i would call myself a half

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mormon my father was mormon my mother

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was catholic

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and i would go to one church one week

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and the other church the next week so

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i

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understand

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many of the

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mormon doctrines let's go that far

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this particular organization

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is uh is provocative it has some

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interesting ideas

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on their website they claim that as

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disciples of jesus christ

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they believe in using technology to

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serve lift and love

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it all sounds good to me

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the transhumanist declaration of what it

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means to be transhumanist

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adopted by several

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transhumanist organizations including

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humanity plus and this is from their

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website

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the mormon transhumanist association

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i will go through

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the numbered characteristics

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number one

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humanity stands to be profoundly

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affected by science and technology in

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the future

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we envision the possibility of

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broadening human potential by overcoming

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aging

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cognitive shortcomings

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involuntary suffering

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and our confinement to planet earth

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number two

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we believe that

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humanity's potential is still mostly

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unrealized

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there are possible scenarios

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that lead to wonderful and exceedingly

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worthwhile

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enhanced human conditions

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number three

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we recognize that humanity faces serious

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risks

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especially

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from the misuse of new technologies

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there are possible realistic scenarios

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that lead to the loss of most or even

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all

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of what we hold valuable

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some of these scenarios are drastic

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others are subtle

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although all progresses change

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not all change is progress

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number four

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research

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effort needs to be invested

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into understanding these prospects

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we need to carefully

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deliberate

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how best to reduce risks and expedite

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beneficial applications

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we also need forums

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where people can constructively discuss

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what should be done and a social order

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where responsible decisions can be

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implemented

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number five

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reduction of existential risks and

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development of means

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for preservation of life and health

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the alleviation of grave suffering

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and the improvement of human foresight

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and wisdom

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should be pursued

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as urgent priorities

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and heavily funded

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number six

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policy making ought to be guided by

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responsible

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inclusive moral vision taking seriously

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both opportunities and risks

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respecting autonomy and individual

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rights

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and showing solidarity with and concern

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for

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the interests and dignity of all people

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around the globe

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we must also consider

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our moral responsibilities

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towards generations that will exist in

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the future

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number seven

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we advocate

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the well-being

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of all sentients

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including

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humans

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non-human animals

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and any future artificial intellects

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modified life forms

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or

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other intelligences to which

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technological and scientific advance may

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give rise

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and finally

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number eight

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we favor allowing individuals wide

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personal choice

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over how they enable their lives

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this includes use of techniques that may

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be developed to assist memory

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concentration and mental energy life

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extension

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therapies

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reproductive choice technologies

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cryonics procedures and many other

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possible human modification and

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enhancement

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technologies it sounds interesting right

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totally

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more info is available at

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good stuff right

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at least interesting

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with elon musk's rollout of neuralink

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this seems to be the way technology is

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going

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humans merging with the machine

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back to the amazing technology

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developments of the bouncing box enter

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nasa and previous donors to the project

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and employees of the project

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some interesting lawsuits have shown up

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in court

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when these things happen this tends to

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come with the territory

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basically

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as gathered online

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robert caviat worked for internasa for

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free

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with uh the promise i guess of later

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payment

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firmage allegedly

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said that marriott daniel marriott had

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secured millions in funding

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in reality allegedly marriott had

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promised funding

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contingent on a working model

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of the anti-gravity infinite energy

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momentum converting device known to many

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as the bouncing box

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long story short

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when nothing came to fruition for

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whatever reason as agreed upon

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marriott pulled out allegedly

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it's rumored firmage allowed people to

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continue to work

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where things get hairy and interesting

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here

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as if they aren't already

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is that robert caveat

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is slash was suing for not being paid

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allegedly and firmage allegedly expected

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kiviat to not only roll out a public

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scenario

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leading to a live demonstration of the

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device firmage was inventing

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and caveat was also expected to tell the

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story

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we've all heard of the aviarian ufo

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circles

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and uh

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whose name was whose and who was doing

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what it's very interesting

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00:25:02,230 --> 00:24:59,200
back to

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what what is actually taking place here

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the

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pandolfi's eyes

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it gets more interesting

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as ron pandolfi wanted

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kiviat allegedly

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to tell the story of how his pakistani

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wife

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allegedly from cashmere purportedly

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arrived on earth

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if i haven't tantalized your taste buds

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for high strangeness yet i apologize

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there's much more to this entire story

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and

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there's some things i can't go into due

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to signing ndas as many as

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many people have to in the field and

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what i can say is some involved

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say they disproved the claims being made

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involving forced precessed gyroscopic

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mechanisms

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to create field effects

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and that there was no legitimacy to the

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project

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what i can also mention

582
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coming out of the many comments of those

583
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involved and those in the periphery

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is that during experiments at the quote

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unquote lake

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it has been alleged that entities

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and other worldly intelligences

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would creep

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or appear

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at the corners of the walls as if

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watching the experiments unfold

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when they were powered up and this is

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only at times

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take it all with a grain of salt if

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you'd like

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but there is so much more to

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all these connectivities and

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synchronicities

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whether perfectly explained or not there

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seems to be a common

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thread

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going through all of this

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and that's art

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that's science

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traveling

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beyond what is humanly believed to be

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capable means

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and many of the same players

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kit green

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hal put off

611
00:27:18,830 --> 00:27:15,039
and many many others

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00:27:22,710 --> 00:27:18,840
seem to always be at the center of this

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amazing area of study

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so yeah i guess we uh

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take that for what it is

616
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take it for you know what you believe it

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could be

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and we continue on

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delving

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down the rabbit hole i could keep going

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but it's it's

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00:27:43,669 --> 00:27:41,840
it it just gets weirder and weirder

623
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uh maybe we will

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set this up for another podcast and take

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another deep dive

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into some of these

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declassified documents and some that may

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still be classified if they are

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until next time

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keep your eyes to the skies

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feet on the ground but don't forget

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come blast off in my time machine third

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